Nick, the best time seems to be just after dawn, I think the reason there were so many gulls this afternoon is that football matches etc, had been played there this morning.
I had a look this morning but no sign of it amongst the other assorted gulls.
Nick, the best time seems to be just after dawn, I think the reason there were so many gulls this afternoon is that football matches etc, had been played there this morning.
Dave, what road are these fields on? I might check this out this week.
Longshaw street - heading south towards Warrington on the A49 turn right at the PC World roundabout go under bridge, first left playing fields are 100 yards on the left- nowt there when I passed later this afternoon.It is a good playing field for gulls though. :)
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Sunday 15th of December 2013 06:46:43 PM
Dallam Playing Fields held many gulls this (early) afternoon, mainly Black Headed but with good numbers of Common and smaller numbers of Herring and Lesser Black-backed (including one that looked like a 'fuscus'), there was also a third winter Iceland Gull showing very well, this was my third there in less than two years!
cheers
Dave
-- Edited by Dave Riley on Sunday 15th of December 2013 03:47:58 PM
Turning my car round today outside the front of my house in Orford,Warrington, I was surprised to spot a single female grey wagtail which flew right in front of me and landed on a neighbours fence giving excellent close up views!
I work around the corner from here John and I often see the gulls 'padding' for worms. I'll keep a closer eye on it if there's a Yellow legged gull knocking around.
On the A57 roundabout, near the former Bowling Green pub, this morning around 11.00 were a few Black Headed Gulls, patting the grass with their feet to tempt worms to surface. I've seen upto 30 birds on this traffic island at times, quite often they're joined by a couple of Common Gulls, and even the odd Herring Gull. The large central verge of the A57 heading towards the Peace Centre also attracts Black Headed Gulls, and an adult Herring Gull became a regular feature here about a year ago. If you get caught by a red light whilst driving around the roundabout you've got a few seconds to have a glance at the gulls as they're only a few feet away. Today though patting the grass with a vigour that would put a professional tap dancer to shame was a large Herring Gull, with a slate coloured saddle, and bright lemon feet. An adult Yellow Legged Herring Gull had joined the Black Heads that were teasing worms to surface. Then the lights changed and viewing was over. This traffic island is always worth a glance, especially if you're a passenger and not a driver, as I don't want my remarks mentioned in RTA reports. The gulls are a daily feature, and hopefully I'll spot a Med Gull dancing here one day. This same roundabout was a magnet for swallows and martins back in September.
2 Swallows were seen fly catching low over the grassy area opposite the former Bowling Green pub, alongside the main A57 near the Unilever offices.
They were there all morning, and were still swooping very low over the same area at lunchtime.
Over the previous week every time I passed the area, a pair of Swallows were either flying low over the nearby large traffic island or adjacent verges.
Are Swallows still feeding young close by, or have just taken a liking to the area whilst on passage?.
02/08/2013 5pm Big female Hobby just flown direct south fast over our Garden in central Warrington headed in the direction on Bank quay railway station.
It has now become apparent that ringers were down at milner st ringing this morning. Now I see why there were only 20 later in the day,do we really need to ring every bird ,wouldn't it not have been better for everyone who wanted to enjoy them to just not ring them at all,and let everyone enjoy these fantastic birds just for one weekend without ringing them.These sort of birds are great for getting the general public involved with birds in some way,I know I showed many none birders who were amazed by them :)
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Saturday 17th of November 2012 08:47:22 PM
I think I have a duty to stick up for the ringers who were down at Milner St on Saturday morning. The birds were found a week last Friday by one of the ringers present on Saturday and have been caught over both weekends, so the numbers of birds present later i doubt isn't as a direct result of this activity. As you can see from the elation in John Doherty's post the opportunity to see these birds in the hand would surely be the highlight of anybody's day, bird lover or not. But the main purpose for ringing these birds is the fact that these birds WILL return to Scandinavia, so the prospect of having them controlled either on breeding grounds or even back in the UK (which has happened) is surely of great benefit. I don't think you have suffered greatly from this practise John looking at your fantastic photos, and hopefully you too can get the opportunity to see these magnificent migrants up close and very personal.
I did post an answer jason ,but decided to delete it,and leave it to someone else for once as many gave me an oppinion against them being ringed and not a one for the ringing,but give someone else a chance to get the hastle for once as I have been the bad guy too many times on here while others sit back Enjoy the hobby whichever way your happy with
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Monday 19th of November 2012 08:37:19 PM
One photographer was in the area yesterday morning, when the threat to remove the trees was made, also three photographers were there this morning, between 09.00 and 10.00, who were advised of the situation by the guy who originally found the birds, when they moved to a 'neutral area'.
50+ present at 12.10. Please note, I have heard that a member of staff from VW (possibly the manager) has threatened to cut down the trees if photographers keep going into his parking/dsiplay area, I don't know how serious he is, but best to play safe!
67 still present atMilner street at 3pm down to 4 feetI was there from 10-3pm and not one person went on the VW display area.Everyone behaved very well all day with no hastle at all,on friday morning someone strayed into vw and was told to leave by the manager,and thats the only instance in the whole weekend,with hundreds of visitors. nice to meet quite a few forum members today
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Sunday 18th of November 2012 03:27:33 PM
I personally was at Warrington Milner Street for first light, connecting with 50-60 Waxwings - a lifer. Merseyside ringers were around so it was a great opportunity to get up close and personal with these beautiful birds, and handle them as well (5 were ringed). Super start to the morning, then on to Moore (see thread)
20 waxwings still at Milner Street at 4pm and interestingly a few fieldfares in the trees with berries by B&QI have a feeling the main flock could be on Bank park about 400 yards east of milner street as that is were they kept dissapearing to both yesterday and today.
It has now become apparent that ringers were down at milner st ringing this morning. Now I see why there were only 20 later in the day,do we really need to ring every bird ,wouldn't it not have been better for everyone who wanted to enjoy them to just not ring them at all,and let everyone enjoy these fantastic birds just for one weekend without ringing them.These sort of birds are great for getting the general public involved with birds in some way,I know I showed many none birders who were amazed by them :)
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Saturday 17th of November 2012 08:47:22 PM
Watched 68-70 Waxwings around the VW dealership, Milner Street between 2:45 and 3:20 when they flew off south. At times they were feeding on berry trees at the back, alongside the railway line.
Finally caught up with them today at Milner St,3 hours watching them this afternoon,Biggest count was 68,but I recon there are probably 75+ as some were coming and going,shame the sun didn't stay out for the pics,but nice to see them 300 yards from home.A few other birders poped in and out during the afternoon,and a few risley moss regulars.The birds were very flighty and only about every 25 mins did they venture down to the berry trees,and then only for seconds.They remain mainly in the tall trees at the furniture store.Thanks to all for the updates all week
Watched 68-70 Waxwings around the VW dealership, Milner Street between 2:45 and 3:20 when they flew off south. At times they were feeding on berry trees at the back, alongside the railway line.
Hi Kev That was me photographing them by the railway,nice to speak to you ,a few shots on my flickr link below
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Saturday 17th of November 2012 07:42:21 AM
Any at Milner st today anyone? looking like they will not be there when im off at the weekend,but still seemed to be lots of berries when I drove past in the dark last night,still not seen any pics from warrington,so maybe they are not in the best place for pics?anyone sees any today or particularly tomorrow morning please post,don't assume everyone knows they are still there. cheers John
Quick visit today at 2. 30 pm. About 30 still present then, plus at least three photographers
Any at Milner st today anyone? looking like they will not be there when im off at the weekend,but still seemed to be lots of berries when I drove past in the dark last night,still not seen any pics from warrington,so maybe they are not in the best place for pics?anyone sees any today or particularly tomorrow morning please post,don't assume everyone knows they are still there. cheers John
36 still present this afternoon (about 12.15), a few were fly catching, with others dropping on to the berries, their favoured trees seem to be almost stripped.
Waxwing numbers varied here considerbly late morning to early afternoon with small groups constantly joining and then leaving the main flock. Max 66 birds seen plus 9 Mistle Thrushes
More I think about it the ones last night flying to roost behind the vw garage as I was passing in almost darkness could have been Starlings-so forget my earlier post
-- Edited by JOHN TYMON on Tuesday 13th of November 2012 12:28:12 PM