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Mark Rigby wrote:

Gary Gorner wrote:


Met a nice couple from canada who called them cedar waxwings






Hi Gary,

Cedar Waxwing is the American counterpart of 'our' Bohemian Waxwing and would be a Mega! Slightly larger with subtle plumage differences.






thanks for the info Mark

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Don't we all Gary!! I too dipped on the Waxwings on the way back unfortunately.

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yep that was me Nick nice to meet you wishing i was in fuertawink.gif

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Gary Gorner wrote:


Met a nice couple from canada who called them cedar waxwings






Hi Gary,

Cedar Waxwing is the American counterpart of 'our' Bohemian Waxwing and would be a Mega! Slightly larger with subtle plumage differences.




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Quick visit this morning to barrow in the hope of getting my first waxwings and as i passed the rowan trees no signs of the birdsno.gif, so did a u- turn and slowly drove past again .As i looked to the oposite side to where the rowans were, in brambles close I spotted them. At least 50 birds, watched them for about ten minutes mainly preening, wing stretching and trilling then a sparrow hawk shifted them hopefully missing its intended prey.Lifer for me tickety tickbiggrin.gifafter 3 years of missing them.
The weather was changing so decided to go for the great grey shrike at waddington . On arrival the shrike was posing on a fence post but after 2 minutes was chased off over the hill buy some crowsfurious.gif waited an hour but it didnt re appear so went back to barrow for more of the waxwingsbiggrin.gif
By 2pm rain came so that was that, but another day to remember great this birdinbiggrin.gif
Met a nice couple from canada who called them cedar waxwings






Gary,

I think I may have been chatting to you in the lay by at the Great Grey Shrike site. Were you in a red car? I was in the 4x4 that was parked in front of you.

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Quick visit this morning to barrow in the hope of getting my first waxwings and as i passed the rowan trees no signs of the birdsno.gif, so did a u- turn and slowly drove past again .As i looked to the oposite side to where the rowans were, in brambles close I spotted them. At least 50 birds, watched them for about ten minutes mainly preening, wing stretching and trilling then a sparrow hawk shifted them hopefully missing its intended prey.Lifer for me tickety tickbiggrin.gifafter 3 years of missing them.
The weather was changing so decided to go for the great grey shrike at waddington . On arrival the shrike was posing on a fence post but after 2 minutes was chased off over the hill buy some crowsfurious.gif waited an hour but it didnt re appear so went back to barrow for more of the waxwingsbiggrin.gif
By 2pm rain came so that was that, but another day to remember great this birdinbiggrin.gif
Met a nice couple from canada who called them cedar waxwings

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I too went to Barrow on Sunday and really enjoyed seeing the 40 or so Waxwings that were there at that point. Shame the light was a bit poor for photos but a joy to watch anyway!

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Stonking views of Waxwings at Barrow today

92 birds counted (from a photo of the flock in flight)

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Great Grey Shrike


Watched the Great Grey Shrike just north of Clitheroe for an hour this morning fascinating bird which was patrolling quite a large area using trees, walls, wires and posts to hunt from and seemed to move through an area of around 800m square quite consistently. Sadly the nearest it came was around 200m from the road so couldn't see what prey items it was favouring.

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Two buzzards on lamp post & tree on by-pass at Clitheroe
Saw buzzard soaring in distance from grandparent's when doing Big Garden Bird Watch there- awwwhh can't I count it? biggrin.gif


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Just an info update - 25 Snow Bunting seen on nearby Pendle today.

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No sign of the Velvet Scoter at Barrow Lodge this early afternoon.

Info thanks to John Tymon





first and last twichcry.gifdisbelief.gif100 mile round trip due to motorways being blocked-fer nowtdisbelief.gifi could have been adding to my points on pennycry.gifbiggrin.gif

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Scoter not there this afternoon, 1pm ish. Might have moved on. Nice to meet fellow birders smile.gif A lot of snow dropped this morning- some roads were blocked.
Buzzard on lamp post on by-pass coming up to pond. Lots of mallards, coots, moorhens, some black headed gulls

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No sign of the Velvet Scoter at Barrow Lodge this early afternoon.

Info thanks to John Tymon

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Just an update on the Pendle Snow Buntings, as one or two folk have mentioned the possibility of combining a visit to Pendle and Barrow. 34 were seen yesterday.

Word of warning - snowed a fair bit yesterday afternoon and again overnight (and snowing now). Not the best time to attempt Pendle if you are not confident in winter conditions.

Updates on the East Lancashire Ornithologists site, grid ref shown on the 1st Jan entry.



-- Edited by Mark Jarrett on Saturday 2nd of January 2010 10:28:39 AM

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Scoter present all day giving incredibly close views. Many thanks to the posters who gave directions - even I found the place straight away!

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I'm saying rude words as I drove passed here on Boxing day & saw man with tripod and was rather curious but late for visiting 'in-laws' after stopping at Springwood feeders (plus bloomin cold). Kids would have killed me!!
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Some very interesting pics of the Scoter on Richard Steel's web page :-

http:wildlifephotographic.blogspot.com/


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Cheers Riggers for the helpful explanation of their extraordinaryily powerful digestive system. And Ian, only meant that Collins had the attributes of a generic juvenile down well as opposed to female in stressing the white belly of the juvenile compared to an adult feamle (visible only when it wing flapped and reared from the water) and much more strongly pronounced facial markings but not in sexing a juvenile which, as you say, is beyond its scope. Fine bird to observe close in either way.

-- Edited by Tim Wilcox on Wednesday 30th of December 2009 11:39:29 AM

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I was there tues morning must hve just missed you Sid .Great bird and a lifer for me.biggrin.gif what was unusual was the way the black headed gulls were following it and grabbing anything it disturbed in its bubbles.

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steve ashworth wrote:

smile.gifbiggrin.gifthanks to all. scoter still here at three as i am looking at it at the moment






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smile.gifbiggrin.gifthanks to all. scoter still here at three as i am looking at it at the moment

-- Edited by steve ashworth on Tuesday 29th of December 2009 06:38:53 PM

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Yes Pete, Scoter was still there this morning from 08.30 until I left at 09.45 blooming cold by then but a smashing bird - probably the best views that I shall ever have of the species biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif There were also 70 +/- Mallard several of which were displaying - some rather vigorously for such a cold morning wink.gifwink.gif

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In case they're of use here are some directions I've PM'd to a few people who've asked, its about 15 mins from the M6 and there are Snow Bunts reported on Pendle Hill which is about three miles from the Scoter:

Come off M6 at Tickled Trout take A59 for Clitheroe [not Blackburn] go past Samlesbury [BAE] keep going on A59. About a mile south of Clitheroe there are two roundabouts within 300m and at the second there's services signed which is a McDonalds and a petrol station. Just to the left of the services is a pond about 100 m long - it's on there ( with a bit if luck it'll still be there anyway) it's dives a lot so may take a while to spot.

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it's 2 miles south of Clitheroe by A59 near McDonalds at Barrow Lodge SD,740,381

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smile.gifhi ian would like to see the scoter were abouts in clithero is it

-- Edited by steve ashworth on Tuesday 29th of December 2009 06:40:21 PM

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Tim Wilcox wrote:

The face markings were very distinct and as I had Collins with me for reference I'd say it has it down pretty well.






Down as what thought Tim? It makes practically no plumage difference between juveniles and adult females. There is no doubt, as earlier mentioned, that the bird is a first winter but Collins nor any other 'field guide' go into the sexing of such immatures. Probably for very good reason too! I'd perhaps expect a first winter male to be showing some black feathering by now but apparenly that's not necessarily the case and the pale on the bill seems evident from only one image so may not necessarily be present (allowing for the effect a film of water can have on assessing colouration of bills!). Let's hope the bird itself knows what it is and that perhaps it'll hang on a while and we'll find out one way or another. Until then though this bird is best left as an first winter, the sex of which is open to much supposition

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Hi Tim

"Scoters and other diving ducks swallow mussels whole and crush
the shells in their stomach, where they are then ground into small fragments. Such ducks have a large and very strong stomach,which enables the birds to exploit a wide size range of molluscs.

However this feeding habit is expends a lot of energy which would explain why they are continually diving and eating the mussels. The ducks have to crush the shells, then heat the mussel flesh and the water locked between the valves to body temperature and finally, excrete the salt from the mussel flesh and water."

The Barrow bird caught about 15-20 mussels in the hour or so that I was watching it which fits in with the above explanation

Hope this helps

Riggers

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Went to see the bird today in very good light and my notes say it was a 'dark chocolate' colour overall with a turquoise sheen on the back the white wing speculum was visible from time to time but when it reared up and flapped its wings the very pale breast was clearly visible. The face markings were very distinct and as I had Collins with me for reference I'd say it has it down pretty well. The most extraordinary thing was its ability to swallow huge fresh-water mussels whole. How does it manage to digest them? And how does it manage to excrete the shells? If the mussel closes when swallowed how do the digestive juices break it down and if it is open how come the bird's gullet is not cut by the sharp edges? Does anyone know?

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Still there @1600, close into the road embankment.

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Nice one Ian,

Its ID seems to have been subject of a bit of debate but your comments have certainly made my mind up!!!

Thanks

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I wouldn't read to much into the Collins guide where ageing birds such as this Velvet Scoter is concerned Phil. It hasn't the space to enter into the often complicated not to mention difficult ageing of such birds, it really is beyond it's scope much of the time.

That said, I too had been informed from those who had seen it (I have not!) that the bird is an immature drake. First winter drakes are identifiable by the first emergence of pure black feathering (particularly around the head initially) and also a reddish hue might be detectable on the sides of the bill (where the yellow patch of adult drakes appears).

Judging from photos is always secondary to seeing the bird for yourself in the field but some photos (especially the superb images on Bill Aspin's bird blog by Pete Morris) seem to show the crown and forhead as particularly dark, though not exactly black (coupled with a reduced white area around the lores and base of the bill) and a slightly paler 'patch' appearing where it should on the bill. So I would lean towards the bird being a drake. Also the greater coverts don't appear to have a huge amount of white on them and a couple even have remnants of a dark shaft running down to the feather tip, so atleast we can be sure it's a first winter!

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Good views of the Velvet Scoter at 9.30am this morning on the far side.

I have been told it is a first winter male but looking in the Collins Guide it does look like a female.

Hopefully it should stay around a bit as it does seem to be enjoying those freshwater mussels!!

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We visited this morning and saw the bird very easily still scoffing musselsbiggrin.gif. Should be plenty of good photos of this bird judging by the number of cameramen there!wink.gif

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Visited this a.m. with Peter Johnson after seeing the excellent photos taken yesterday, the bird is still present and very easy to see, would definately recommend a trip here to anyone thinking about it.
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Popped off the M6 today to see the Velvet Scoter at Clitheroe which was showing very well. As the small lake it was on was nearly completely iced up not sure how long it will stay but was fascinating to see it diving below the ice, retrieving freshwater mussels [small swan mussels?] and swallowing them whole. Occasionally it came up with one that was too large to swallow and so dropped it. Wonder how freshwater mussels compare with its normal diet?

Smaller bird than I was expecting compared to the resident mallard and then an unexpected bonus of a Grey Wagtail in the adjoining stream. Really enjoyable.

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