The record of the RSPB managing sites and the conservation work they are responsible for is surely not disputed(sorry,forgot about that Ruddy Duck!), so I can't work out why there is a negative feel about this new development from some. Cheers Ian
just come back from the rspb meeting about dovestones, a lot of local emotion about leaving the area alone and to cap it all the rspb let slip the location of the local peregrine pair
-- Edited by stuartherring on Tuesday 22nd of September 2009 09:19:55 PM
I gather that the vis centre will be at the car park at the dam at Dove Stones Resr. I do have the plans of the reserve. Basically it's in 3 sections: Ashway Gap (all in GMC) where visitors will be catered for, vis centre etc etc; Arnfield, and Quiet Shepherd, both areas in Derbyshire, where RSPB will have control over the shooting rights and manage to moorland for breeding waders. It's been on the cards for a year or so now but was kept under wraps until the negotiations with UU were finalised.
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ooooooooohhh and judith have they any plans for a visitor centre or is all that revealed at the meeting i unfortunatly missed the last one but will make the one on the 22nd
THE first of two events to let Saddleworth residents have their say about the future of Dovestone reservoir was held at Uppermill Civic Hall on Friday.
The event outlined some of the plans which form a vision for the future and was organised by United Utilities and the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB), who are working with the Peak District National Park Authority, Oldham Council, and people who use the area, to improve it for people, water and wildlife.
The next meeting will be at Uppermill Civic Hall on Tuesday, September 22, from 7pm (taken from oldham chronicle)
-- Edited by stuartherring on Tuesday 15th of September 2009 05:57:20 PM
did anybody go to the meeting with the rspb & united utilities at uppermill civic hall ,was it any good and is it worth going to the next one on the 22 of sep
Have you got full details of this meeting, Stuart? I've heard nothing about it.
did anybody go to the meeting with the rspb & united utilities at uppermill civic hall ,was it any good and is it worth going to the next one on the 22 of sep
lots of goldfinch families on feeders, a few greenfinches,chaffinches and 1 redpoll ,blue tits, coal tits and great tits all at the same time the siskins will be back when it gets a bit colder (hopefully) ps any one know where to get good quality sunflower hearts at a reasonable price???
Garden Warbler still singing at Binn Green, Dove Stones, though very elusive. Pair of Common Sandpipers nearby getting very agitated and chasing off any Crows in their vicinity.
Walked from Brownhills up the canal to Diggle last night (excellent pint of Landlord in the Diggle Hotel) - plenty of Lapwing chicks in the fields. Good to see them still doing well here, they've almost disappeared from Mossley.
Whoops! Sorry about my gaffe. Greenfield Kingfisher is a pub not a bird!
Stuart, we would appreciate a confidential e-mail with details of the nest and adult in case we have missed a territory. We aim to find all nests between Stalybridge and the 'tops', record the nests, metal ring the chicks, and colour ring adults.
At least 5 Lapwing nests predated over last month, one pair of adults mating. Second brood Dippers 4 ringed at Greenfield Kingfisher, females on eggs at Uppermill and Diggle, nest predated at Measurements. Nuthatch calling at last location
On 2nd may - 1pm - 5pm 5 wheatear at Diggle Edge 2 Stock Dove which flew in direction of Lark Hill and Castleshaw where we later saw 7 together at Bleak Hey Nook
I spent 2 hours there this afternoon. It is about 4 years since I have found any breeding pairs in the area. I have had one or two passing through. They seem to have gone the same way as the cuckoos.
Royal George Mill- This morning 6 swallows, 2 house martins, willow warbler and chiffchaff. At Dovestones green woodpecker, wheatear, stonechat, raven and a willow warbler of interest. In the last few days around Uppermill a flock of 60 fieldfare, little and tawny owl, raven, wheatear and chiffchaff. I am still looking for a ring ouzel this year, I have been up to Dovestones every day for the last 5 but no luck.
at least 18 Red Grouse above Dovestones Reservoir, on Dove Stone Moss/Featherbed Moss today Stonechat singing in the Chew Valley, really standing out in the silence, only one Meadow Pipit singing, 2 Skylark singing on the tops, 1 Curlew
Stroll around Greenfield yesterday produced nothing exciting. 8 Moorhens in the field opposite Royal George Lodge was a good count and suggests a good breeding season - I was worried that Mink might have devoured most of this year's young. A Nuthatch nearby, plus 2 near Fletcher's Mill was also pretty good for this area. Several Dippers on the Tame and Chew Brook, plus a Kingfisher on the canal.
No sign of Crossbills or Wood Warbler. Walked across dam to check bracken-covered slopes and found family of TWITE with recently-fledged young. Also ubiquitous Mipits, Blackbird, Stonechat (heard not seen), Pleasant, Wren, Dunnock and Brown Hare. Common Sandpiper and Pied Wagtail on Yeoman Hey Resr.
Checked the old GM Atlas and there were only 3 confirmed breeding species for this tetrad: Canada Goose (when they were comparatively scarce!), Mipit and Common Sand. Just shows what can be found in relatively unpromising spots.
Despite much map searching I haven't managed to pinpoint the Binn Green car park. was thinking of going up there some time this week has anyone got reasonably detailed instructions of how to get there, I'll be coming out of Manchester along the Oldham Road. Thanks
I've now checked. The only winter record from the Binn Green area was from Mike (Scouser) Chorley in November - thanks Mike. Has anyone else got winter sightings that they haven't reported?
I've just had a huge batch of Atlas data from the BTO and it appears that there were Crossbill sightings in the Binn Green area this last winter. Will do a bit more research into this and see if we can find any proof of breeding.
spent the morning around binn green, very windy, crossbills showing well nr the car park, siskins also around but only flight views. unable to find wood warbler or spotted flycatcher despite good search but like most birds today were probably skulking from the high winds.
I think Pete's correct, especially as Crossbills are early breeders, ours could have come a very good distance and we seem to be just part of the current eruption.
There has been a big eruption of Crossbills in the last few weeks,all over the country.Birds have been seen as far south as Cornwall and The Scilly Isles.It is a fair assumption that the Dovestone birds are part of this eruption,rather than local breeders.Be nice to be proved wrong though. Just done a quick check on Birdguides and counted 75 reports of Crossbill in the last week from as far apart as Orkney to the Scilly Isles.
Has anyone got any proof that the birds (the Crossbills, that is) bred locally? Judith and I are pretty sure they did, but would like hard evidence for the Atlases (national & county)
The Crossbills were very vocal and flightly amongst the tops of the pines from the private road directly below the car park this afternoon. The largest single group was 27 birds, though counts of 1, 27, 12 and 10 were noted.
No sign of the Wood Warbler.
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Glad to hear the Dipper has fledged young. The bird you saw was a female which, from my regular visits, seems to have been a lone parent (dead body, presumed the male, seen near the nest entrance) and working very hard to feed her brood.
If entering Atlas data from this area, please note that Binn Green is in SE00C (Pots & Pans) whereas most of Dovestone Resr is in SE00B - see Steve Atkins' excellent GM tetrad map on this excellent website.
Anybody not familiar with this site and relying on the pointer on the given Birdguides grid reference SE0103 will be diverted to Dovestones Res (under that heading), like I was on 2nd June . Both Dovestones and Binn Green are off the Manchester OS map but are inlculded in the GM A-Z, Binn Green pg100 B2 at 017045 (as I later discovered).
I'd never heard of Binn Green before, though I'd birded Dovestones in early 90's. I didn't have much time to spare and thought I'd taken the wrong routes, thus not seeing anything other than an adult colour-ringed Dipper feeding a juv at Chew Brook below Dovestones at 005039 (A-Z ref). The rings were right leg- orange above white (silver?), left leg - pink.
Now I know where the site is, thanks to on-site directions and updates on this thread. I've not binn yet though hope to soon.
Silly fuel prices are prompting me to keep birding closer to home now.
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